Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Minnesota
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Demolished
[edit]List here lost properties that have been confirmed from a published source. These should be reported to the Minnesota Historical Society for delisting.
- Blue Earth
- Zieglers Ford Bridge—Removed in 1995.[1]
- Rice
- Laura Baker School—All original buildings razed.[2]
- St. Louis
- Church of St. John the Baptist (Virginia, Minnesota)—Demolished around December 2018.[3] -McGhiever (talk) 19:19, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- William Ingersoll Estate—Collapsed in 2014. Site cleared and components put in storage for possible reassembly.[4] -McGhiever (talk) 16:55, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- Stevens
- Morris High School (Morris, Minnesota)–Demolished in 2013.[5] Confirmed in site visit 9/7/14. -McGhiever (talk) 15:59, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
References
- ^ Smith, Jason (2010-08-05). "Ziegler's Ford Bridge". Bridgehunter.com. Retrieved 2015-10-12.
- ^ Hatler, Carrie (March 2015). "Laura Baker's School in Northfield". Forgotten Minnesota. Retrieved 2015-08-07.
- ^ Riebe, Angie (2019-02-04). "Old church demolition saddens, improves Catholic community". Star Tribune. Minneapolis. Retrieved 2019-10-25.
- ^ Gee, Alastair (2018-01-29). "Rotting cabins, closed trails: why we're shining a light on US national parks". The Guardian. Retrieved 2018-01-29.
- ^ Vogel, Jennifer (2013-07-05). "Sometimes they can't be saved: Morris to tear down elementary school". Minnesota Public Radio. Retrieved 2014-09-09.
Possibly demolished
[edit]List here properties which seem to be lost, but lack a citation confirming that they've been demolished.
- Can't find in aerial or street view imagery. -McGhiever (talk) 17:13, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- Definitely demolished (many years ago, according to an owner of the nearby restaurant) except for an outlying shed, which I photographed. Jonathunder (talk) 15:24, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Can't find in aerial or street view imagery. -McGhiever (talk) 17:13, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- Gone per site visit in July 2016. -McGhiever (talk) 00:06, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
- Only foundation visible in satellite imagery
- Appears demolished per site visit in Jul 2013. -McGhiever (talk) 17:13, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- Reported by new local editor; empty lot in satellite photos. -McGhiever (talk) 22:36, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
- That would explain why we couldn't find it last August when I got most of the other sites in Bovey. Jonathunder (talk) 19:59, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- Reported by new local editor; empty lot in satellite photos. -McGhiever (talk) 22:36, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
- Now an empty lot in Google satellite and street views. -McGhiever (talk) 13:46, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- Dropped by site on April 15, 2013, became suspicious is either gone or is actually next door. Cross-checking at SHPO on April 16, 2013; the c. 1860 house is not anywhere in the area it's supposed to be. Safe to presume demolished. --Bobak (talk) 16:56, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
- Dropped by site on April 15, 2013, thought I may have found it and took some photos of a very unique structure. Cross-checking at SHPO on April 16, 2013; the fairly typical period house is not at the site (waterfront condos are) and it is safe to presume demolished. --Bobak (talk) 17:09, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
- Now an empty lot in Google satellite view. -McGhiever (talk) 16:17, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- Can't find in aerial views (see photo); presumably on the grounds of the Minnesota Correctional Facility – Faribault, which precludes an in-person search.-McGhiever (talk) 04:32, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Modern bridges (confirmed in site visit Oct 2012) occupy locations confirmed from SHPO files. -McGhiever (talk) 03:19, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Most contributing properties appear to have been razed and replaced with modern structures in current Google satellite view. -McGhiever (talk) 02:50, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
- Couldn't find it driving past the site in September 2015. Google Maps now appears to show two circular outlines of where it was. Jonathunder (talk) 00:28, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
- All but one building of 10-contributing-property complex appears demolished in Google & Bing Maps.
- Location seems accurate per description in nomination form. Nothing visible in satellite imagery, plus this upload to Panoramio from a searcher in 2011.
Coordinates unverified
[edit]Besides the three sections above, these are the only properties whose coordinates I am less than 99% sure of. In 2012 and 2013 I fine-tuned the coordinates for every MN NRHP listing to be spot-on. These remaining properties are probably correct but have resisted confirmation through aerial or street view imagery. -McGhiever (talk) 17:13, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Other issues
[edit]Use this section to list issues that don't fit in any other category.
- Big Stone
- District No. 13 School—Moved to grounds of Big Stone County Historical Museum (per site visit Sep 2013; haven't found a citable source). -McGhiever (talk) 02:43, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Brown
- Shady Lane Stock Farm—Barn, silo, & granary demolished per aerial photography, only farmhouse still standing. -McGhiever (talk) 14:33, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
- Dakota
- Good Templars Hall—Moved to Little Log House Pioneer Village in 2005. -McGhiever (talk) 02:47, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Faribault
- Adams H. Bullis House—Why listed as "Address restricted"?
- This one is easy to photograph from the highway unless leaves are on the trees that surround it. Jonathunder (talk) 15:51, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Adams H. Bullis House—Why listed as "Address restricted"?
- Le Sueur
- Confirmed what happened to it: In 1984 it was moved to Lake Washington County Park for use as a pedestrian bridge. The move was never "pre-approved" for the move as per NRHP procedures (documentation, approval by State Review Board, approval by the Keeper), and it was apparently automatically removed by the Register--though SHPO continues to show it as listed, at the old location; and the state bridge plan shows it as listed, at the new location. According to a January 11, 2011 by Dennis Gimmestead (Cultural Resources Unit, Office of Environmental Services, MNDot) it needs a new nomination to re-list. --Bobak (talk) 17:24, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
- Nobles
- Siemer Silo and Barn—Silo is gone (per site visit Oct 2012)
- Pine
- Bethlehem Lutheran Church (Askov, Minnesota)–Façade appears heavily modified in Google Street View
- Peter P. Kilstofte Farmstead—Barn & silo collapsed? (per Google & Bing Maps)
- Pipestone
- Stordahl Building—Second floor removed (per Google street view)
- Scott
- Wencl Kajer Farmstead–Round barn gone (per Google & Bing Maps)
- Todd
- Todd County Courthouse, Sheriff's House, and Jail—Sheriff's House and Jail demolished (per Google maps, confirmed in site visit Oct 2015) -McGhiever (talk) 21:46, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
- Winona
- Latsch Building—Named for the same person as John A. Latsch State Park but misspelled as "Kirch/Latch Building" in the list. Jonathunder (talk) 16:24, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
- Wright
- David Hanaford Farmstead—Most contributing properties demolished except for farmhouse and barn, per site visit. -McGhiever (talk) 15:11, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
Not publicly accessible
[edit]Add to this section any properties that are difficult or impossible for regular contributors to photograph clearly. This will help other photographers know which sites are largely hopeless, while pinpointing which properties to request an image donation for from institutions like the Minnesota Historical Society.
- Clay
- Randolph M. Probstfield House (screened by trees)
- Cook
- Lake
- Lake of the Woods
- Northwest Point (remote private property on international boundary)
- St. Louis
- Matt and Emma Hill Historic Farmstead (out of sight of public thoroughfares)
- Mike and Mary Matson Historic Farmstead (out of sight of public thoroughfares; few if any surviving buildings based on aerial imagery)
- May Flower (shipwreck)
- Robert Wallace (bulk carrier)
- Washington
- Mitchell Jackson Farmhouse (screened by trees)
Lost delistings needing photo
[edit]These properties were delisted due to loss from demolition, fire, etc. They remain in need of a photograph, which could be solicited from a historical society or other institutional donation.
- Becker
- Benton
- Big Stone
- Blue Earth
- Brown
- Carver
- Cass
- Chisago
- Dakota
- Douglas
- Faribault
- Freeborn
- Goodhue
- Houston
- Hubbard
- Isanti
- Itasca
- Jackson
- Koochiching
- Lac qui Parle
- Lake of the Woods
- Le Sueur
- McLeod
- Meeker
- Morrison
- Murray
- Nicollet
- Nobles
- Olmsted
- Pine
- Redwood
- Rice
- Rock
- Scott
- St. Louis
- Stearns
- St. Cloud Post Office/City Hall
- St. Cloud Public Library (demolished in 1981, listed in 1982?!)
- Steele
- Waseca
- Washington
- Wilkin
- Winona
- Wright
- There are two Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Railroad Depot (Dakota County, Minnesota), although only one that's listed is a former NRHP site. So if you people don't mind, I'm going to split that redlink between Farmington and Hastings. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 17:59, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Possibly standing delistings needing coordinates
[edit]These properties were delisted because they were moved or altered, compromising their historical integrity. They may still be standing but their current locations are unknown. It may be useful to add their current coordinates and possibly a current photograph.
- Blue Earth
- Adam Jefferson House–Moved to North Mankato in 1987. Historical photo.
- Kennedy Bridge (Mankato, Minnesota)–Moved in 2006. Photos.
- Bridgehunter posting from 2010 says bridge dismantled, not yet reassembled elsewhere.[1] -McGhiever (talk) 21:39, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
- Dodge
- Andrew Holterman House–Moved in the 1990s.
- Goodhue
- Just C. Gronvold House–Moved in 1991.
- Wanamingo Township Hall–Moved in 1990.
- Hennepin
- Isaac Atwater House–May be at The Landing in Shakopee. Historical photo.
- Morrison
- Clough Township Hall–Moved in 2001.
- Otter Tail
- Henry G. Page House–Moved in 1977.
- E. J. Webber House–Moved in 1991.
- Pipestone
- Christianson House and Store–Moved in 1981.
References
- ^ Smith, Jason (2010-08-05). "Hungry Hollow Bridge". Bridgehunter.com. Retrieved 2015-12-19.
Address restricted
[edit]Some properties, particularly archaeological sites, are listed by the NRHP as "Address restricted" to protect them from looting or vandalism. There is a placeholder image used for these in county lists, but it may be possible to acquire specific images for some of these listings (for example, from a historical society or the Institute for Minnesota Archaeology, artifacts from the site now in a museum, or a historical marker). Moreover some sites are more publicly accessible than the NRHP listing suggests (marked with interpretive signage in a park, for example) and could be given coordinates and a site photo.
- Aitkin
- Malmo Mounds and Village Site (21AK1)
- Northwestern quarter of Section 32, Township 45 North, Range 25 West[1]
- Malmo Mounds and Village Site (21AK1)
- Benton
- Posch Site (21BN3)
- Cass
- Chippewa Agency Historic District
- Gull Lake Mounds Site (21CA37)
- "There is some archaeological interpretation in the Gull Lake Dam Recreation Area visitor's center"[2]
- 46°24'43.29"N 94°21'4.79"W -Whittaker, Timothy. American Indian Mounds 1.0
- Hole-in-the-Day House Site
- Old Backus
- Rice Lake Hut Rings
- South Pike Bay Site (21CA38)
- Chisago
- Clearwater
- Lower Rice Lake Site (21CE5)
- Upper Rice Lake Site (21CE4)
- Cook
- Fowl Lake Site (21CK1)
- Cottonwood
- Mountain Lake Site (21CO1)
- Crow Wing
- Fort Flatmouth Mounds
- 8 linear mounds beside Cross Lake.[4] However marked on a map of Crow Wing State Forest around 46°36′13″N 94°3′23″W / 46.60361°N 94.05639°W.[5]
- Gordon-Schaust Site (21CW83)
- "Two separate linear mound groups which lie almost parallel to each other. Located in a wildlife sanctuary on the south end of Cross Lake. N.E. 1/4 of Sec. 32-137-27."[6] However, possibly 46°38′47.93″N 94°7′57.7″W / 46.6466472°N 94.132694°W based on configuration of roads in map on pg. 62 of [www.osa.admin.state.mn.us/documents/LiDARreportEdited.pdf Archaeological Prospection for Precontact Burial Mounds Using Light Detection and Ranging (LiDAR) in Scott and Crow Wing Counties, Minnesota], which doesn't look like a wildlife sanctuary. -McGhiever (talk) 19:49, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
- Sebre Lake Site (21-CW-55)
- St. Columba Mission Site
- Upper Hay Lake Archeological District (21CW14)
- Fort Flatmouth Mounds
- Douglas
- Basswood Shores Site (21DL90)
- Faribault
- Center Creek Archeological District—Humphrey (21FA1) and Vosburg (21FA2)
- "The Winnebago Area Museum in the nearby town of Winnebago has many artifacts from the sites on display."[2]
- Center Creek Archeological District—Humphrey (21FA1) and Vosburg (21FA2)
- Goodhue
- Bartron Site (21GD2)
- "Southern end of Prairie Island."[7]
- Fort Sweeney Site (21GD86)
- Spring Creek Petroglyphs (21GD187)
- On private property.[8]
- Bartron Site (21GD2)
- Houston
- Yucatan Fort Site (21HU18)
- Hubbard
- Itasca
- Jackson
- Robertson Park Site (21JK16)
- Kanabec
- Knife Lake Prehistoric District (21KA22, 24, 26)
- Kittson
- Lake Bronson Site (21KT1)
- "Several mounds are still visible south of County Road 10"[2]
- Lake Bronson Site (21KT1)
- Koochiching
- McKinstry Mounds and Village Site (21KC2)
- "Can be viewed from the adjacent bridge"[2]
- Nett Lake Petroglyphs Site (21KC8)
- "Access to the site is controlled by members of the Nett Lake Reservation... Renderings... are archived by the Royal Ontario Museum, Toronto."[9]
- McKinstry Mounds and Village Site (21KC2)
- Martin
- Fox Lake Site (21MR2)
- Meeker
- Pipe Lake Fort
- I know the exact location of this site, I called the owner of the property for permission to go check it out, but he never called back. Alas it's not visible from the public areas. What's left is a short earthen mound. --Bobak (talk) 16:19, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Pipe Lake Fort
- Mille Lacs
- Saw Mill Site (21ML10) in Mille Lacs Kathio State Park
- Vineland Bay Site (21ML7) in Mille Lacs Kathio State Park
- Morrison
- Ayer Mission Site (21MO107)
- "About four miles north of Little Falls on the eastern bank of the Mississippi."[10]
- Belle Prairie Village Site
- "About four miles north of Little Falls."[10] Note this is a Native American site and not the replica log cabin and historic marker in the same vicinity.
- Fort Ripley
- "The only structure remaining... is the stone ruins of the former powder magazine. Basement foundations of a number of structures are indicated by deep depressions in the ground sprouting small trees. Camp Ripley marked the site with a flagstaff and a large sign... smaller signs indicate the locations of prominent buildings... Individual visits to the fort site are not allowed, but with advance notice, the camp will give an escorted tour to groups of at least ten... [Alternatively] you can see the site from the other side of the Mississippi... On the north end of the village [of Fort Ripley] is a turnoff to an attractive polished black granite marker with the history of Fort Ripley. You can drive or walk the short distance south of the marker to the turnaround. Across the river and south at the clearing is the site of old Fort Ripley." –Jeff Barnes, Forts of the Northern Plains (2008)
- Pelkey Lake Site
- Zebulon Pike's 1805-1806 Wintering Quarters (21MO21)
- Rice Lake Prehistoric District
- Stanchfield Logging Camp
- Within Camp Ripley[11]
- Swan River Village Site
- "On the eastern bank of the Mississippi, about three miles south of Little Falls."[10]
- Ayer Mission Site (21MO107)
- Mower
- Grand Meadow Quarry Archeological District
- North of Grand Meadow, state-owned. Currently unmarked but may be developed for visitation in the future.[12]
- Grand Meadow Quarry Archeological District
- Norman
- Otter Tail
- Pine
- Stumne Mounds (21PN5)
- Scott
- Inyan Ceyaka Otonwe in Carver Rapids Unit of Minnesota Valley State Recreation Area
- St. Louis
- Archeological Site 21SL55 in Voyageurs National Park
- Archeological Site No. 21SL73 in Voyageurs National Park
- Clyde Creek Site (21SL35) in Voyageurs National Park
- King Williams Narrows Site (21SL82) in Voyageurs National Park
- Sweetnose Island Site (21SL141) in Voyageurs National Park
- Wabasha
- Wadena
- Blueberry Lake Village Site (21WD6)
- Réaume's Trading Post (21WD15)
- On private property.
- Washington
- St. Croix River Access Site (21WA49)
- Schilling Archeological District (21WA1)
- On private property.
References
- ^ Aufderheide, Arthur C., et al. "Health, Demography, and Archaeology of Mille Lacs Native American Mortuary Populations". Plains Anthropologist 39.149 (1994): 251-375: 273.
- ^ a b c d Anfinson, Scott (2009). "Finding Minnesota: A Geographic Guide to Minnesota Archaeology" (Document). Minnesota Office of the State Archaeologist.
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- ^ Paprock, John-Brian; Teresa Peneguy Paprock (2004). Sacred Sites of Minnesota. Black Earth, Wis.: Trails Books. ISBN 1931599262.
- ^ Crow Wing State Forest (PDF) (Map). State of Minnesota, Department of Natural Resources. 2000. Retrieved 2016-07-18.
- ^ "Sites of Interest". Crosslake Historical Society. Retrieved 2014-08-17.
- ^ Gibbon, Guy; Scott F. Anfinson (2008). "The Oneota Tradition in Southern Minnesota". Minnesota Archaeology: The First 13,000 Years. University of Minnesota.
- ^ Dudzik, Mark J. "Annual Report, Fiscal Years 2004/05" (Document). Office of the State Archaeologist.
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- ^ a b c d Granger, Susan; Scott Kelly (June 1994). "Little Falls' Historic Contexts: Final Report of an Historic Preservation Planning Project" (Document). Gemini Research.
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- ^ "Great archeological 'dig' right in Grand Meadow's backyard". Meadow Area News. 2007-11-07. Retrieved 2013-09-06.
Willard Bunnell House (Winona County)
[edit]I shifted the Willard Bunnell House link from Winona to Homer, because the house is actually in Homer, which borders Winona. I am gathering solid material now toward creating the Bunnell House article very soon. Hurrmic (talk) 14:42, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Draft tally table of MN RHPs by county
[edit]Drafting at National Register of Historic Places listings in Minnesota\temp...if this turns out okay i would like to insert it into this list-article, as has been done for some other state RHP lists. This main list-article is a bit large, currently. If the remaining 20 or so small counties were table-ized, it would be too large. Is it okay if i move out to separate pages, some of the remaining larger counties? doncram (talk) 23:42, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- I moved out the remaining counties that had 20 or more listings. A couple with 19 already were split out. Still too big. Need to split out all others with more than 15 listings, and then perhaps those having exactly 15 listings, i think. doncram (talk) 01:26, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Multiple Property Submissions etc.
[edit]I added section to list all Multiple Property Submission, MRA, and TR studies for NRHP eligibility for the state. Thanks Elkman for providing generator to make that list easily! Does this add to the list-article sufficiently to develop it? I personally think each of the MRA documents should justify an article.... doncram (talk) 05:25, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- I made this list for Florida. Might something like it work here? --Ebyabe (talk) 20:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- Many of Minnesota's listings on the NRHP are described in the following Multiple Property Submissions, Multiple Resource Area, or Thematic Resources studies. Briefly i thot these were all wikipedia notable, but probably they are not all notable that way. Removed them from the main article. For each there is a NRHP document available on-line. These can be used, at least, to develop articles on the NRHPs. Anyhow, the list of MPSs etc, is:
- Aitkin County MRA
- American Indian Rock Art in Minnesota MPS [1]
- Architecture of Olof Hanson MPS [2]
- Benton County MRA [3]
- Blue Earth County MRA [4]
- Blue Earth County MRA (AD)
- Brown County MRA [5]
- Carnegie Libraries of St. Paul TR [6]
- Carver County MRA [7]
- Chisago County MRA [8]
- Chisago County MRA (AD)
- Clay County MRA [9]
- Clay County MRA (AD)
- Cold Spring Brewers' Houses TR
- Commercial Logging in Minnesota MPS [10]
- Cuyuna Iron Range Municipally-Owned Elevated Metal Water Tanks
- Dodge County MRA [11]
- Duluth's Central Business District, MPS
- Ethnic Hamlet Churches-Stearns County Catholic Settlement Churches TR [12]
- Faribault County MRA [13]
- Faribault County MRA (AD)
- Federal Relief Construction in Minnesota MPS [14]
- Federal Relief Construction in Minnesota MPS AD
- Fillmore County MRA [15]
- Grain Elevator Design in Minnesota MPS
- Houston County MRA [16]
- Iron and Steel Bridges in Minnesota MPS [17]
- Isanti County MRA [18]
- Itasca County MRA [19]
- James J. Hill's North Oaks Farm Buildings MPS
- Kanabec County MRA [20]
- Le Sueur County MRA [21]
- Lincoln County MRA [22]
- Lyon County MRA [23]
- Minnesota Hydroelectric Generating Facilities MPS [24]
- Minnesota Masonry-Arch Highway Bridges MPS [25]
- Minnesota Military Roads MPS [26]
- Minnesota Red River Trails MPS [27]
- Minnesota State Park CCC/WPA/Rustic Style MPS [28]
- Minnesota's Lake Superior Shipwrecks MPS
- Murray County MRA [29]
- Nobles County MRA [30]
- Nobles County MRA (AD)
- Oliver Iron Mining Company Buildings TR
- Ottawa Stone Buildings TR
- Overland Staging Industry in Minnesota MPS [31]
- Pine County MRA [32]
- Pipestone County MRA [33]
- Pipestone County MRA (AD)
- Pope County MRA [34]
- Portage Trails in Minnesota MPS [35]
- Precontact American Indian Earthworks MPS [36]
- Red Brick Houses in Wabasha, Minnesota, Associated with Merchant-Tradesmen MPS [37]
- Redwood County MRA [38]
- Reinforced-Concrete Highway Bridges in Minnesota MPS [39]
- Rice County MRA [40]
- Rice County MRA (AD)
- Rock County MRA [41]
- Rural Finnish Log Buildings of St. Louis County, Minnesota, 1890--1930s MPS [42]
- Rural Goodhue County MRA [43]
- Rural Goodhue County MRA (AD)
- Scott County MRA [44]
- Scott County MRA (AD)
- Shipwrecks of Minnesota's Inland Lakes and Rivers MPS [45]
- Stearns County MRA [46]
- U.S. Coast Guard Lighthouses and Light Stations on the Great Lakes TR
- Valley Creek Residences TR
- Washington County MRA [47]
- Washington County MRA (AD)
- West Seventh Street Early Limestone Houses TR
- Western Mesabi iron Range Village Halls TR;Itasca County MRA
- Wilkin County MRA [48]
- Wright County MRA [49]
Navigation aid
[edit]Doncram added statement on where to find the entries for Minneapolis and Saint Paul. This should help many readers, especially those who don't know the state's largest city is in Hennepin County and the Capitol is in Ramsey. Another editor has removed it on the grounds of inconsistency. I think the benefit to the reader of being able to quickly find the Twin Cities in the long list outweighs inconsistency, particularly since so many listings are there. Jonathunder (talk) 15:20, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- This seems more than reasonable to me and, fwiw, there's precedent for this type of thing in the New Jersey and Delaware lists (there may be others, but those are two of which I'm aware). --sanfranman59 (talk) 01:59, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Splitting out counties with 10 and 9 sites
[edit]Due to the slow page-loading for this list, built up by more photos being added all the time, i think it's necessary now to split out more of the counties. That is, to create separate articles for Aitkin 10, Dodge 10, Lac Qui Parle 10, Mower 10, Nobles 10, Waseca 10, Big Stone 9, and Isanti 9 counties. Hope that is okay. --doncram (talk) 19:55, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Counties Lacking Historic Places listed
[edit]Are they counties without any places listed not yet researched, or do they just not have any historic places in them? Sarah.Angela97 (talk) 22:23, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
- Each of Minnesota's 87 counties has at least two sites on the register, all of which are shown in the county lists, though not all of them have articles. Jonathunder (talk) 23:04, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Proposed removals
[edit]These properties were proposed to be removed from the National Register by the State Historic Preservation Review Board when they met in August 2018:
- Albertville Roller Mill, Albertville, Wright County
- Cloverton School, New Dorsey Township, Pine County
- Columbian Hotel, Ortonville, Big Stone County
- Delhi Coronet Band Hall, Delhi, Redwood County
- Hebeisenb House, Hamburg, Carver County
These are listed on the agenda for the November meeting:
- Commercial Hotel, Wabasso, Redwood County
- Itasca Lumber Company Superintendent’s Residence, Deer River, Itasca County
- Minnewaska Hospital, Starbuck, Pope County
-Jonathunder (talk) 17:14, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Lorenzo Boardman architect
[edit]Hi User:Jonathunder, others, does anyone have means to identify works by architect Lorenzo M. Boardman in the Minneapolis area? He apparently worked in the area for 30 years. An editor is keen to know. I tried browsing in the sources in historic district articles in Minneapolis, but many of those sources are not available online. --Doncram (talk) 21:21, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
- I'll check some print sources. -McGhiever (talk) 22:59, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Who does NRHS research?
[edit]Is this the kind of research that determines every site in the National Register? I came across this assessment (p. 309) by accident. I've never heard of Mead & Hunt before (they have 40 US locations and wrote other works cited in Wikipedia) but am taken aback by their sources and conclusion. I guess they talked to or read Patty Dean (MNHS) and Chris Osgood, and they cite Wikipedia at least twice. That's an unacceptable gut punch of a record. Why didn't Mead & Hunt ask Martin Keller? Andrea Swensson? Jon Bream? Chris Riemenschneider? Sorry but I had assumed that the register used reliable sourcing that is better than Wikipedia's sources.
There is a dearth of scholarly research on the popular music scene in Minneapolis, and in the United
States in general. Without the perspective gained from this research, it is not possible to establish the
significance of First Avenue and the 7th Street Entry.
Recommendation:
First Avenue and the 7th St. Entry is recommended as not eligible for listing in the National Register.
-SusanLesch (talk) 18:54, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- This looks like the results of a study for potentially historic properties that would be impacted as a result of construction for the Southwest Corridor transit extension. I get the feeling they weren't exactly looking to add a lot of properties to the National Register, but rather they wanted to cover all the bases for the draft environmental impact statement. I'd be willing to bet that if First Avenue wanted to put their building on the National Register, they could make the case that it's significant either for its architecture or for its role in the Minneapolis music scene. I get the feeling that these days, a lot of National Register nominations are about getting tax credits or financial assistance for historic preservation. I just wrote about the Amhoist Tower, which was built in 1984 and recently added to the National Register, even though Larry Millett didn't even write about it in the AIA Guide to the Twin Cities. I'd love to see the IDS Tower listed on the National Register, since it's arguably more famous. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 03:04, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. Another question, Elkman. Do you happen to know if the Strutwear Building across from U.S. Bank Stadium is the same building in which Seymour Cray began work on the CDC 6600? Before he moved camp to Chippewa Falls. 501 Park Avenue where Control Data started seems to sit underneath a Minnesota Vikings longhouse. I agree the IDS Tower should be listed and really this Control Data history should be too. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:44, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- The Strutwear building might be associated with Seymour Cray and with the CDC 6600, but sources disagree. I'm looking at a December 22, 1981 article in the Minneapolis Star (from newspapers.com), and it says that he designed the CDC 6600 in a lab that Control Data built for him in 1962 in Chippewa Falls. But, a November 12, 1961 article says that engineers were working on the CDC 6600 in the Strutwear Building. The National Register nomination for the Strutwear Building doesn't say anything about Control Data, only saying that Strutwear ended operations in the building in 1958. So, I'm taking the guess that even if part of the design of the CDC 6600 was done in the Strutwear building, the building's notability for the National Register doesn't cover that. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 19:18, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for that nomination form. I walk past Hess & Roise when I'm in Minneapolis and next time might knock. A search for Strutwear finds Robert M. Price wrote that as "a matter of historical record", the CDC 6600 was "well underway" before the move to Chippewa Falls (p. 36). Mr. Price worked for the company in 1961 and later was CEO. I understand that the Strutwear strike was an important event but gee whiz. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:35, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Elkman, today I tried to reach Hess Roise about Seymour Cray and the CDC 6600 at Strutwear. They seemed to take the message. -SusanLesch (talk) 17:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for that nomination form. I walk past Hess & Roise when I'm in Minneapolis and next time might knock. A search for Strutwear finds Robert M. Price wrote that as "a matter of historical record", the CDC 6600 was "well underway" before the move to Chippewa Falls (p. 36). Mr. Price worked for the company in 1961 and later was CEO. I understand that the Strutwear strike was an important event but gee whiz. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:35, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- The Strutwear building might be associated with Seymour Cray and with the CDC 6600, but sources disagree. I'm looking at a December 22, 1981 article in the Minneapolis Star (from newspapers.com), and it says that he designed the CDC 6600 in a lab that Control Data built for him in 1962 in Chippewa Falls. But, a November 12, 1961 article says that engineers were working on the CDC 6600 in the Strutwear Building. The National Register nomination for the Strutwear Building doesn't say anything about Control Data, only saying that Strutwear ended operations in the building in 1958. So, I'm taking the guess that even if part of the design of the CDC 6600 was done in the Strutwear building, the building's notability for the National Register doesn't cover that. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 19:18, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. Another question, Elkman. Do you happen to know if the Strutwear Building across from U.S. Bank Stadium is the same building in which Seymour Cray began work on the CDC 6600? Before he moved camp to Chippewa Falls. 501 Park Avenue where Control Data started seems to sit underneath a Minnesota Vikings longhouse. I agree the IDS Tower should be listed and really this Control Data history should be too. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:44, 24 May 2023 (UTC)